Curse

kzeroes · Aug 05, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Hello everyone,

Today, my brother and I spend one whole day and many many plats testing builds to try clear Underworld and we finally found a set up that get us so close to finish but yet so far because our party/hope/time/energy was completely annihilated by the the quest the Four Horsemen... Our 9 hours of dedication were crushed in 2 minutes...

So i wanted to ask if anyone have beat Underworld or specifically the Four Horsemen quest with 2 human and+6 heroes yet or not and what kind of build did you guys use, pleasee help! We are 2 warrior maxed Ursan, and we only own GW:Faction and EOTN, so our builds is very limited. We preferred to solo with us two mainly because many people who join us left due to... the great amount it took to complete UW.

Here is the builds that we used to get us through all 9 quests
war/rit spirit spam- turn Ursan
war/ele ward mele/turn Ursan
Mo/Ogden WoH healer
Mo/Ogden Prot monk
Rit/Xandra Restore rit
A/R- Anton Crit baragger
Ele/mes- Vekk shutdown
Ele/fire- Aoe Spam

and here we are when we got total owned at the last quest

Yeah, in the screen my brother said that the admin made it impossible to clear UW with heroes, so can anyone tell me if this's true or not?

Any input and strategies are greatly appreciated. Please tell us what characters we should annexed and add.

Or as a final resort, if you guys think absolutely required to have skills other than skills in FACTION and EOTN then which should we get Prophecy or NightFall? Or if at least another human is required then who should we get?

thanks in advance!

FrAnt1c² · Aug 05, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

This belongs in the build/farming section

FengShuiDove · Aug 05, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Done properly, it can be done with 2-3 people. Study up on Terra Tanking and you can solo most of the Underworld, particularly The Four Horsemen quest. There is already a ton of stuff on quickly clearing the Underworld in the farming section though, so I suggest checking it out.

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 05, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

They're not talking about farming, they're talking about beating UW.

What I want to know is why the Wars are pretending to be Eles and Rits. You've got Factions, which means [[Dragon Slash] and [["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)], i.e, Godmode. Might as well use it.

kzeroes · Aug 05, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

They're not talking about farming, they're talking about beating UW.

What I want to know is why the Wars are pretending to be Eles and Rits. You've got Factions, which means [[Dragon Slash] and [["Save Yourselves!" (Luxon)], i.e, Godmode. Might as well use it.

Because we try to ursan spike, and the skills you mentioned are not much use if we in ursan mode, whereas as rit , we can spawn spirit then just leave it and use ursan, same with ele, spawn wards then just ursan. thanks for inputs so far
Sorry if i posted this in the wrong section, can some admin move it for me?

zwei2stein · Aug 05, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by kzeroes

Because we try to ursan spike, and the skills you mentioned are not much use if we in ursan mode, whereas as rit , we can spawn spirit then just leave it and use ursan, same with ele, spawn wards then just ursan. thanks for inputs so far

If ursan gimps you then don't use it. Well, with Dslasher you can't use it anyway.

For your purporsers Dslasher >> ursan with few wards or weak spirits.

Dslash can even be compressed to three slots, leaving you 5 for spirits/wards withoutd need to switch.

If you want wards, its cool, but stick em to elementalist. Faction only skills make decent earth ele/warder, you run ele anyway.

If you want spirits, well, not so cool, but if you want em anyway stick em to ritualist, you run rt anyway.

tezza151 · Aug 05, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

if you only have 2 ppl i wouldnt choose ursan (not that i would recommend it in any situation) the best option is one of the players as a terra tank, ive completed uw with me and my brother and heroes, he was a terra tank and i was a lazy monk, i basically had prot spells to get through the traps and to take the agro and damage of half of the enemies on the four horseman quest in order to protect the heros

Stuart444 · Aug 05, 2008, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Well after the next update, who knows if what will happen with ursan >_>

but anyway, It is possible but you probably need a terra tank instead of 2 ursans.

Me and my girlfriend have gone through the whole of UW just clearing out monsters to see if we get beat at any point (it was rather fun), I was the only Ursan, she was an SF ele and we had heroes (Sabway, prot monk, healer monk, SF hero) we didn't have time to do all of UW but after some discussion about completing UW we decided that we could probably do it.

What we would need is me as an Ursan (if it gets nerfed badly in the next update then, hello Dslash build <3<3<3 ), She will need to learn Terra Tanking (should also help against those bloody bladeaxtes >_>) and when we get to say, the four horseman quest. then she can flag her heroes to one side while she goes to the other side and hold off 2 of the four horseman while I go with the heroes for the other 2.

by far, the toughest UW quest <_<

anyway, point is. I don't know if four horseman is possible without a terra tank (it might be with humans but you said only two of you are humans, the rest are heroes lol)

Squishy ftw · Aug 05, 2008, 09:05 AM // 09:05

I would go earthshaker, add splinter weapon/ancestors' to that resto rit and add in an MM.

Lykan · Aug 05, 2008, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Maybe because your build is pretty terrible, your ele is bad and you probably dont have many resses on your other heroes either. Im betting you monk bars are pretty bad too. Crit barrage? (Im going to take heat from all the A/R fans now but it doesnt really fit in anywhere)There are many better options for that slot. Maybe another ele as you want to put wards on the warrior or an MM might help. Also HExes > PvE.

Post all the hero bars so we can see.

And before you reply, just because it got you that far doesnt make it good.

Blunt Feather · Aug 05, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08

errr ursan with only two people, yeah i don't ursan but heres a hint u need a terratank if only to people are actually doing it because heroes are useless when going ursanway

Rothan Celt · Aug 05, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

1 ursan +terr tank + heros = UW done

Ultima pyromancer · Aug 05, 2008, 11:51 AM // 11:51

If you really want to do it 2 man, the thing is: Most of UW can be solo'd by a E/A.. The only place really that cant be done my a terra is Vale ( only because during the quest, you need to keep some things alive, or kill off the enemies before they can kill the lost souls.. but as they wont target you sliver armor wont damage them)

So if people are suggesting you use that or a terra tank, you can solo the majority of the quests. Now as you aren't using a terra or perma im guessing you either dont like them, dont have access or just want the challenge of not using them.

Has Sabway been tried? or perhaps Discordway with 4 or 5 necro heroes. An imbagon would probably cut the healers some slack, but that must be a human player for obvious reasons. Also, I think you could use your warriors to a greater effect if you brought some warrior skills.. As suggested dragon slash is great for damage and SY is the best party wide buff out there atm. Its thoughtful switching between ursan but its not extremely efficient IMO

TheodenKing · Aug 05, 2008, 12:55 PM // 12:55

My guildie and I cleared UW with 6 heroes. He went as a Shadowform sin tank, I went as a sniper ranger. At the part where you died, he stood on one side where the horsemen come, I flagged all the heroes at the other side. He simply agroed his side and delayed them while the 6 heroes and I killed the other side, then came over to his side to complete the quest.

Like the above replies, I would say there are better options than Ursan for a 2-person team.

romeus petrus · Aug 05, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Agree with above. One of the two players should probably be and OF or SF tank for the horsemen quest, the rest is pretty straight forward.

Smurf Minions · Aug 05, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

You failed becuz you have bad bars.. Really take SH instead of ele attunement lol, and take a decent bar instead of URSAN URSAN GOGO, ursan only works with loads of it and HB monks, you'd be better of with SY d-slash spam bar.

Ate of DK · Aug 05, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Anything is possible in normal mode. You could even have Alesia and Lina heal you if they were allowed to join.

Accursed · Aug 05, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

For one thing, you, your brother, and your heroes have horrible bars. Here is some example bars you could take with you.

Your brother - Earthshaker
You - DS 'SY!' Warrior
Duo Monks - WoH
Necromancer Hero - SS
Elementalist Hero - Earth Warder

The rest are optional.

Yawgmoth · Aug 05, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Bad builds, crap bars, blahblah, etc...
Hey!
Reminder: They only have FACTIONS+GW:EN.

Recommendation: just join an Ursan Pug and do it with people, typical random pugs do it in ~2 hours

Jetdoc · Aug 05, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I'm sure he's trying to figure out if it is possible with two people and six heroes so he and his brother can avoid joining a PuG.

The answer is - it is absolutely possible to clear all of UW with 2 people and 6 heroes. Definitely dump Ursan - no need for you to run that build when there are only two of you. If one of you has another character, you only need one human warrior (for the Terra Tank), and use your other character to its fullest (hopefully for something that the AI fails horribly at).

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Originally Posted by kzeroes

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